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Mandatory Mediation

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Brian O'Neill

posts 65

9:37 am January 23, 2012

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Mandatory Mediation is here!

http://attorneygeneral.delawar…..am1-18.pdf

 

Anyone care to comment?

 

There are other links to the details like $500 fees by banks to file the mediation.   Are these fees passed on to the homeowners?

Hank Cochran

posts 1

8:22 am January 24, 2012

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How does eliminating income qualifications help this situation (other than letting people stay in homes they can't afford)?

Jason Williams

Delaware

posts 27

9:23 am January 24, 2012

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I honestly think it is just going to delay the inevitable.  Most the people I come across have already moved out of the house so it's no longer their primary residence or they simply can't afford the house anymore (out of work, drastic drop in income) which I don't see how mediation can help.  For some people, it may help but I think what will probably happen is either the homeowner will not show up for the mediation (embarrassment, not receiving notification, just don't care, etc.) or they will show up but the lender will not be able to help them and the foreclosure will proceed anyway.  I just spoke to a woman Friday who was foreclosed on in 08/08 and the property is just going to sheriff's sale next month.  I don't know how the bank and the homeowner would be able to come to an amicable resolution after it being a non performing asset for 3+ years.  For the sheriff's sale gurus like you Brian, you may see a slight drop in what's available but eventually I think there will be a flood of properties once the mediation fails because the lender will probably put the gas on getting rid of them.  The more I think about it, I think we probably will see more situations like that lady I spoke to.  The banks will probably take forever to set up the mediation.  Once that finally occurs and fails, then they will file foreclosure but how many months will probably have passed with no payments being made – 12, 18? Then you have another 6-12+ months for the foreclosure to get to the sheriff's sale.  Just a thought. 

Mike Ferris

posts 103

1:58 pm January 24, 2012

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I like the idea of there being an opportunity to discuss the possibilities of a solution that works for the lender and the borrower.  Having the discussion is a good thing.  However, chances are the borrower is not going to be able to recover.  Good for them if they can and it all works out.  I also hope the borrowers who are no longer able to uphold their end of the loan agreement will hand the house over at this meeting instead of stealing more free time in the house.  I get really irritated by the perspective and verbiage used in Biden's release "The foreclosure crisis has impacted Delaware families up and down the state…Losing a home to foreclosure can be devastating".  They say it like people contracted a disease.  Let's be real about this, most people are in the "devastating" position they are in because of they overextended their credit and did not have a plan B or savings.  Yes the banks allowed people to do it, but the people did it.  Yeah, it's a bad situation to lose a house.  And if you somehow lost it all, look around the world and see what other people have when they have nothing.  There are a plenty of situations in the world that will keep it in perspective.  For investors, the opportunities to acquire 'flipable' properties will likely be the same.  For homeowners there is the opportunity to work things out with the bank where they may have otherwise not have been.  For the banks????

Brian O'Neill

posts 65

9:37 pm January 24, 2012

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Thanks to a few of my favorite Realtors last Christmas, I can proudly say, "yes, I do have a crystal ball".   When in need of sheriff sale predictions, I shake it, recite an incantation, and poof, out comes answers to all the secrets of this business.  Here's what the great ball of wisdom predicts:

1.There will be a mob of somewhat peaceful people protesting the next NCC Sheriff Sale.  Possibly in some sort of Valentine's Day theme.   Doubtful that yodeling will be involved or even off-key singing, but some statement nonetheless.  It would be nice to hear a "thank you Mr. Attorney General" but doubtful that will happen.

2.Of the 350+/- properties listed, less than 100 will go to auction.   This will be less than the somewhat statistical 1/3.   The reduction will be due to the mandatory mediation.  The $500 set up fee will be passed on to the homeowner.

3.Subsequent sales for the next 3 months will be reduced to the 75-100 range (those actually being auctioned).

4.In 2-6 months, banks will wise up and realize that short sales are good.   Unfortunately, it will take longer for PMI backed loans to get on board and create a short cut to pay the mortgage company without going through the foreclosure process.

5.Real estate investors will catch on an reduce their asking prices an additional 10-20%.   Banks will accept more short sale offers .   (this would be a great statistic to track—any Realtors interested and able to share this data?)

6.Forced placed insurance companies and property maintenance companies will make a bundle by having an extra 6 months or so of coverage and maintenance. (another opportunity to buy stock)

7.Savvy non-paying homeowners can work the system–not just for an extra 6 months but possibly 1-2 years through strategic mortgage mods followed by bankruptcy filings.

8.The presidential elections will be over in November and business will either boom or wither.

 

(Jason,  you are welcome over to my office any time to consult the great orb.   I am sure you will appreciate the irony when you see it.)

 

On a more serious note, those who work with pre-foreclosure deals should see an opportunity here in that the State seems to support short-sales.  Imagine an emotional homeowner in a room with a bank representative and a state appointed mediator.   The homeowner presents a (albeit lowball) short sale offer and the Bank says no.   Wouldn't the mediator have a responsibility to have the 2 come to terms?

 

I don't typically work in the pre-foreclosure end of the business.   But, I am interested in keeping this thread open for discussion so others may bounce ideas off each other.  Wouldn't it be ironic for Mortgage Rescuers be the very ones who sit down with Homeowners and the Mortgage Moderators to work out amicable deals?

Brian O'Neill

posts 65

6:49 am March 1, 2012

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Here is an update:

The February Sale saw a reduction in sales to 60 +/- versus the recent months of 100 +/-.

The March list has been reduced from the 350 or so seen in recent months to 200 +/-.   Most likely 40  +/- will sell.

The April list is rumored to be down to 40 +/- slated for sale.

 

What does this mean? For those properties that were teed up for auction in April-June, they have gotten relief.   This is wonderful news for the homeowners who quality for Mandatory Mediation.  On the other hand, many investor owned, and vacant properties got lumped into the mix.

Has anyone experienced a better negotiation process with banks on short sales because of this?

 

With less REO inventory coming to market in the May–July period, what does that mean to existing inventory and prices?

Brian

Jason Williams

Delaware

posts 27

4:30 pm March 1, 2012

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Brian, something definitely has changed.  We are finding all of our short sales with Bank of America are pretty much sitting in limbo.  About 6-9 months ago, they were impressively moving through files in 30-45 days but now we have files that are just sitting – no negotiator assigned or evaluation of files, etc.  Don't know if this has anything to do with the mediation process but a definite noticeable change.  I personally was hoping the mediation process would cause for the negotiators to work through files faster as the mediation process was just going to drag things out which ulitimately meant less money for the banks to recoup.  Hopefully things pick up a bit.

Bob Warburton

http://www.delawarerehabbargains.com/

posts 29

7:11 am March 2, 2012

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I will say the lenders are very receptive to postponing a Sheriff sale for many of our note purchase and short sales deals. We had two requests for postponement granted this month. It used to be more difficult. As Jason stated, there doesn't seem to be the same sense of urgency to complete the files.

 

On a similar note, we are working on a property that went back to the lender at a sheriff sale. We have been waiting for the lender to get the new deed from the Sheriff for months. The bank mitigator informed us that since this is an election year, Sheriffs are moving slowing in regards to the foreclosure process.

Bob Warburton
USA House Solutions, Inc
302.777.4357
http://www.DelawareRealEstateDeals.com
bobwarburton@comcast.net



 

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